it can be! I don't see it in this case; way too fragmented and confused about it. I think someone has to make at least a gesture at a case for solidarity, if that's what the movie wants to be about.
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Replying to @nberlat @arthur_affect
They do that in one scene quite explicitly, no?
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Replying to @Mad_Science_Guy @nberlat
Yes, the dad gets drunk and maudlin and starts asking the son if the chauffeur they got fired ended up all right and got another job, and the son tries to reassure him while the topic starts pissing the daughter off
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy
right. but again, empathy isn't really solidarity. like, vague guilt about fucking this guy over isn't a sense of shared struggle.
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Replying to @nberlat @Mad_Science_Guy
Right, solidarity does not exist in this story, that's the tragedy
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Mad_Science_Guy
I'm not super convinced the film knows what solidarity is.
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Well this is the same director who did Snowpiercer so I think he understands the concept.
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I said the film not the director. and snowpiercer's class politics are weirdly fucked up too. conspiracy between resistance leader and ruler? what?
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Bong likes tragedies Is the criticism here that he's never done a movie about a *successful* revolution with an uplifting Fanfare for the Common Man kind of ending?
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no. the criticism is that the class politics are really confused! you can have a tragedy without some weird conspiracy theory about how rebel leaders are in cahoots with the ruler.
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It's not confused, though I mean, the idea that revolutionary forces cannot be trusted and are quite often co-opted and betrayed isn't "confused" at all, it's obvious history
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