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    1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein @Lollardfish

      Ehh. It has upsides and downsides, obviously. but it's definitely part of what leads to some of the more *odd* Evangelical positions, imo. And it's not like Judaism has somehow failed to have diversity of thought while also having the idea that rabbinical training is needed.

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    2. Baal Ska Tov‏ @mssilverstein 25 May 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect @Lollardfish

      Not without extensive resistance from the rabbinical establishment, though,.

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @mssilverstein @loudpenitent @Lollardfish

      Yeah I mean they did in point of fact do stuff like try to excommunicate Spinoza (though that was partly driven by a desire to protect the Jewish community as a whole from persecution by giving no quarter to atheism)

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    4. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein @Lollardfish

      Obviously. But in general, in Jewish thought, our experience has been rather different from Catholicism while still pointedly having both a notion of some level of educational gatekeeping for formal doctrine AND vast, VAST diversity within our spheres.

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    5. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 25 May 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

      So it's not "you must have a faith 'purified' of tradition and canon outside of scripture to allow for diversity."

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    6. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 25 May 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and

      And there are, of course, some Protestant traditions with a more rigorous intellectual backing; Presbyterianism has a fairly strong intellectual component as opposed to charismatics.

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein @Lollardfish

      Okay but the evangelicals ARE Presbyterians, that's the lineage that they come from, charismatics are a reaction against that original lineage (Scottish Presbyterians -> English Presbyterians -> the Puritan movement that led to the English Civil War -> the Mayflower Pilgrims)

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    8. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein @Lollardfish

      Charismatics have a far greater influence on modern Evangelicals than the intellectual tradition, though.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @loudpenitent @mssilverstein @Lollardfish

      "Charismatics" per se didn't exist until the 1960s (and the Pentecostal movement they derive from didn't exist until the 1900s) and they're still highly controversial among self-IDed evangelicals as a whole, so that's not really fair

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      I mean, fine, you can say that, but then you can't blame Martin Luther for it, because the people they were reacting against were just as much products of the Protestant Reformation

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

      Like if you wanna talk about charismatics I read How to Live Like a King's Kid by Harold Hill (yes, like the con artist from The Music Man) when I was a kid And he greatly enjoyed calling his enemies "the Sanhedrin", by which he didn't mean Catholics (or Jews) but Calvinists

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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 25 May 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and

          Like, specifically Calvinist theologians from the big Reformed-lineage denominations in the US, the people who go to Calvin College in Grand Rapids and publish in Zondervan Press They were the Establishment his grifting horseshit was railing against

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