Good for her! So what does she have to complain to anyone about?
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Replying to @arthur_affect
She complained about OJ saying women currently have more time for cleaning, when, if you are working from home and home schooling children, that is simply not true.
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Replying to @SuesanwithanE
Owen did not use the word "women", nor did he say "more time" His exact words were "If someone can afford a cleaner, they should be paying them to stay at home and doing their own cleaning - they've certainly got the time to do it"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SuesanwithanE
He addressed this post to a man (Theo Usherwood) It was neither singling out women nor saying this is a universal condition It is talking specifically about people who are privileged enough to have the money to pay a cleaner, and is obviously true
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Replying to @arthur_affect
It’s not “obviously true” if the person, whether male or female, is both trying to work from home and home school.
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Replying to @SuesanwithanE
Yes, it is, because if your budget was flush enough that you could afford the expense of paying a cleaner, then you can cut back on earning money now
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SuesanwithanE
If someone was right on the bubble money-wise they might not be able to absorb the loss of income *and* pay their cleaner, which sucks But the fact remains that they still don't actually need to call in their cleaner It's a nonessential service
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SuesanwithanE
I am extremely resistant to arguments that assume a "lifestyle floor" -- "I'm a person who makes $100k and I have to live like a person who makes $100k, I can't just become a person who makes $50k"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SuesanwithanE
The other alternative here, as it always is, would be for people to live in a less clean house than they did pre-pandemic, which is the usual solution for people without the time and energy to clean, or the money to hire cleaners.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @SuesanwithanE
Yeah, which is also a subtle lifestyle floor argument and should be targeted with the same degree of scorn
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Poor people aren't magic cleaning geniuses by virtue of their class either, a lot of poor people who aren't good at cleaning just have dirty houses A lot of *cleaners* have dirty houses, the way shoemaker's children have no shoes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @SuesanwithanE
There's a bonus here because one big reason people feel pressured to keep their houses clean is that other people might see it, but during the pandemic, that's not a problem!
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On the whole, I agree that these are worse ways to live than people had before the pandemic, and I am 100% on board with the coronavirus being a bad thing.
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