SD doesn't employ a cleaner and OJ has put his on furlough, so neither are actually arguing that they should be allowed to employ a cleaner during a pandemic. I don't know what its like in Ohio, but in the UK well off people arguing about the ethics of employing cleaners
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Replying to @ClasssicalM @arthur_affect and
is hugely alienating for the 80% plus of the population who can't afford to employ one. When its middle class left wing people agonising about that, it makes the average working class person want to do nothing more than go out and vote Tory.
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Replying to @ClasssicalM @halford_rosie and
...Except the cleaners, themselves, are human beings who have a stake in this matter, whose interests Owen was defending
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ClasssicalM and
This is such an incredibly disingenuous, shitty framing, the whole "Silence, class traitor!" stance I don't have a cleaner nor do I work as one but I feel pretty fucking strongly about this issue because I don't want the fucking infection rate to rise
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ClasssicalM and
A pretty large number of people responded to the original thread taking Owen's side BECAUSE they've never employed a cleaner and found people insisting it be considered an essential service extremely offensive A number of them actually were cleaners or former cleaners
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ClasssicalM and
God what the fuck is this argument "Talking about what bosses should do is hugely alienating for workers, who aren't bosses and therefore give a shit about bosses' decisions, including how bosses treat workers Workers want you to leave bosses alone" Fuck, listen to yourself
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Replying to @arthur_affect @halford_rosie and
I'll be generous and suspect you don't get this because class politics works differently in the US. Here we have two middle class leftists debating essentially about the ethics of employing personal servants in their home. Its all about doing this makes them feel.
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Replying to @ClasssicalM @arthur_affect and
As someone from a working class background, I can assure you that for most working class people that just sounds like over privileged people self consciously whinging. And when said people claim to be champions of the workers, it's not a good look.
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Replying to @ClasssicalM @halford_rosie and
No, this is not you speaking as someone from a working class background, this is you speaking as a TERF who resents Owen Jones for defending trans people and will grasp at any straw to make him look bad
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Replying to @arthur_affect @halford_rosie and
You'll note that I'm criticising both SD and OJ, but you carry on with your childish ad hominem accusations. As you seem incapable of reasonable argument without resorting to insults, I'm out.
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OJ made a straightforward statement in support of labor rights and left his own feelings completely out of it For you to state that simply taking a pro-labor position somehow makes OJ out of touch but SD's anti-labor position is "reasonable" gives the lie to your whole argument
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Gotta love accounts only a couple months old that follow essentially no one and have 730 some-odd tweets that are ALL replies. Seems real legit.
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