It just seems odd, to me, like, to take it out of the Japanese context, what if you dropped the Death Note in a Freethinkers conference in San Francisco? Why would anyone care about those terms
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
I think it's fairly common for many English speakers to just say "Heaven and Hell" to mean "the afterlife" as a general concept
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Yeah I guess. I suppose most people weren't hung up on the idea of being eternally tormented in Hell at age 11, somehow developing a temporary OCD that lasted until age 14 where they believed they had to repeat the name of every human they knew to beg for them to be spared
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect
(that was intense, sorry :P let's just say kid me would have used the DN just to make sure I could go to neither Heaven nor Hell, because Pascal's Wager dictated I was much more likely to go to Hell if I didn't)
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
The highly ironic and hotly contested implications of the Death Note Relight films (which show the story from Ryuk's POV) is that it's the other way around There either is no afterlife for normal humans or if there is the Shinigami have no knowledge of it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
The reason for that Rule of the Death Note is that what they *do* know is that Death Note users don't go to any kind of human afterlife because... they become Shinigami The Death Note is where Shinigami come from in the first place, it's how they reproduce
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
The big Wham Line reveal at the end of the story is that the new unnamed Shinigami at the end is in fact Light himself Condemned to the same dreary boredom and nihilistic awareness that nothing matters Ryuk had
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
Which is why Ryuk found it so amusing to troll him in the first place, what the "purpose" of giving him the Death Note was To find the most idealistic, hubristic person you can and watch them destroy themselves and eventually become their own antithesis
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
It also makes the rules more elegant The basic purpose of the Death Note is to *steal* lifespan, to cut short a human's allotted existence to prolong a Shinigami's But this explicitly doesn't work for human users So where did that extra lifespan go?
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
(It *does* work for human users, it just doesn't work while you're still a human The lifespan for newly created Shinigami has to come from somewhere for them to exist at all This explanation neatly answers both questions)
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(Light as a Shinigami probably has thousands of years of accumulated lifespan from his shenanigans in the main show Which would explain why the Unnamed Shinigami just kind of sits around and isn't too interested in getting back in the game on Earth)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
IIRC the framing device of Relight is the Unnamed Shinigami having spent eons wandering the Shinigami Realm looking for Ryuk because he wants to hear his story Which is unusual since the point of Death Note is Shinigami don't find much interesting about each other
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
So assuming it is Light, either he doesn't quite remember who he used to be or he wants to hear it from Ryuk himself for some kind of emotional satisfaction
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