It's treated as a reveal that it was made up and there are no Heaven or Hell, but I would have figured that was everyone involved's base assumption
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
Shinto does have a Heaven and Hell, although those don't mean the same thing as Christianity exactly Heaven is where the kami live and where humans might end up if you become a god yourself Hell, Yomi, is where most dead people end up, the dark underworld
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
It's the equivalent of Olympus and Hades in Greek myth, which are fairly common concepts across different cultures
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It just seems odd, to me, like, to take it out of the Japanese context, what if you dropped the Death Note in a Freethinkers conference in San Francisco? Why would anyone care about those terms
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
I think it's fairly common for many English speakers to just say "Heaven and Hell" to mean "the afterlife" as a general concept
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Yeah I guess. I suppose most people weren't hung up on the idea of being eternally tormented in Hell at age 11, somehow developing a temporary OCD that lasted until age 14 where they believed they had to repeat the name of every human they knew to beg for them to be spared
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(that was intense, sorry :P let's just say kid me would have used the DN just to make sure I could go to neither Heaven nor Hell, because Pascal's Wager dictated I was much more likely to go to Hell if I didn't)
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
The highly ironic and hotly contested implications of the Death Note Relight films (which show the story from Ryuk's POV) is that it's the other way around There either is no afterlife for normal humans or if there is the Shinigami have no knowledge of it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
The reason for that Rule of the Death Note is that what they *do* know is that Death Note users don't go to any kind of human afterlife because... they become Shinigami The Death Note is where Shinigami come from in the first place, it's how they reproduce
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
The big Wham Line reveal at the end of the story is that the new unnamed Shinigami at the end is in fact Light himself Condemned to the same dreary boredom and nihilistic awareness that nothing matters Ryuk had
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Which is why Ryuk found it so amusing to troll him in the first place, what the "purpose" of giving him the Death Note was To find the most idealistic, hubristic person you can and watch them destroy themselves and eventually become their own antithesis
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
It also makes the rules more elegant The basic purpose of the Death Note is to *steal* lifespan, to cut short a human's allotted existence to prolong a Shinigami's But this explicitly doesn't work for human users So where did that extra lifespan go?
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
(It *does* work for human users, it just doesn't work while you're still a human The lifespan for newly created Shinigami has to come from somewhere for them to exist at all This explanation neatly answers both questions)
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