I swear, if Ash and Owen said “Don’t drink and drive” these journalists would say “Faux leftists demand we dehydrate ourselves until we die”
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Replying to @RhetoricalHype @PeteNewbon
I’m not a journalist. OJ said something massively sexist and him and his chums have spent days digging deeper trying to pretend they said something else. It’s not your place to judge what women are doing - either the employers or the employees. So patronising.
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He didn’t say anything sexist though. He asked a journalist why she didn’t ask her kids help clean the house. It’s no ones place to demand others put their health at risk so one doesn’t have to clean their own toilet. This is true no matter what the gender of the employer is.
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And I’m aware you’re not a journalist but this isn’t about you. It’s about one journalist who complained her house was messy because of her teenagers so they wanted their cleaner back despite health risks and another journalist pointing out that risk and suggesting the kids help
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Replying to @RhetoricalHype @PeteNewbon
The answer is it’s none of his business. None of it is any of his business. Women have had enough on being lectured about household management by men. Also, working women don’t need Owen to speak for them and they haven’t asked him to.
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“Their house is messy. Well that’s her job. She must be a bad mother.” I’m a (working class!) single mum of 2 working 40h weeks AND homeschooling. The cleaning company I use contacted me and explained how they planned on keeping everyone safe. Like hell I’m going to say no!
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Replying to @saralikeclara @Tiggles15 and
The company was blatantly lying to you in order to try to keep itself afloat financially and you're wilfully stupid if you don't see why If nothing else, if they can't guarantee none of the cleaners are traveling via public transit they are greatly adding to infection risk
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Tiggles15 and
Owen Jones was talking about how the basic function of modern capitalism in a crisis like this is going to be pushing constantly to reopen sooner than we should and to shove the risk onto poorer workers who are invisible to our politics
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Tiggles15 and
Which is why he demanded - yes, in morally shaming language - that customers like you continue paying cleaners not to work (put them on furlough) to avoid exactly this scenario
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To put it bluntly, if I keep paying and they don’t clean they CANNOT be put on furlough. Furlough is exclusively for when there is no work. And you’ve never actually spoken to, met or even know the names of these women before making all sorts of assumptions about them.
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There ought to be no work, because it ought to be illegal to hire nonessential services during a pandemic The monstrous dereliction of responsibility by the government does not change one's own moral responsibility to continue acting as though the lockdown order were in place
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If you’re able to do that, congrats on your privilege. I’m happy for you. But leave the rest of us out of it.
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Replying to @saralikeclara @Tiggles15 and
People who take care of their home responsibilities are the privileged ones and those hiring others to do their work are not?
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