Aren't Teslas (and electric cars in general) still really environmentally ugly in the *making* compared to other cars, too? Like sure they use less gas per mile, but it costs more ecologically to make a Tesla than a Subaru?
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Replying to @IgneousSigil @BootlegGirl and
afaik there is no solution to the climate problem that doesn't involve densification and mass transit transport is just an enormous part of the carbon footprint and the flat-out simplest way to reduce that is to do less of it
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Replying to @perdricof @BootlegGirl and
and that's on top of the ecological effects of roads and sprawl, which aren't exactly great to begin with
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Replying to @perdricof @BootlegGirl and
even if we could, via fiat, make everyone start driving an electric car tomorrow--well, the electricity comes from somewhere. the *lithium* for the damn batteries come from somewhere. and sprawl chops up and destroys vital ecosystems. electric cars are cool, but not The Answer
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Yes For cars more than anything else the answer can't be anything but having way less miles traveled and having almost all of those be mass transit The future is not happening unless private cars more or less don't exist
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
And there's major objections to that from various marginalized groups re: privacy, safety, accommodation for disabilities The disadvantages of this are real and major obstacles But that's still just the math
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
There's a long way to go on that. Even in the DMV, which is pretty bike-friendly and comparatively well-served by public transport, I have to have a car. Without kids, I could probably make it. With them? No way.
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Replying to @andrewdridgway @arthur_affect and
"The DMV" here means something other than "Department of Motor Vehicles"?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect and
DC/Maryland/Virginia. I live in Arlington and commute to downtown DC by bus+metro or bike. Well, I *did*.
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Replying to @andrewdridgway @BootlegGirl and
arlington would not exactly be my go-to example of dense, transit-oriented urbanism
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The whole DC area is probably the worst victim of the perversities of zoning in the country Arguably worse than San Francisco, they just haven't been cursed with sudden demand to quite the same degree
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Amazon II is coming lol. True the zoning is a mess but there's a serviceable bike infrastructure and a public transport that goes everywhere I've needed to in an hour or less. Though if you got priced further out than Arlington proper God help you.
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Replying to @andrewdridgway @perdricof and
Yeah I knew people commuting in from as far away as Ashburn And, on the other side, I knew of people in Maryland with just as bad commutes (I had a coworker who for some godforsaken reason was commuting from Baltimore)
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