The takes keep getting stupider and pettier https://twitter.com/MattBruenig/status/1259192710327676930 …
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I'm confused. Electric power still comes from somewhere. Usually fossil fuels.
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect
A sensible (for some value of) would say this with the understanding that the electricity generation needs to be green too. I have no idea if the quoted tweet has that understanding...
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Replying to @LizardOrman @BootlegGirl
No it's completely stupid to talk about replacing any home appliances until the grid itself is green This is the same reason saying Tesla cars are going to "save the world" is so stupid
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Well the cars are a bit more justified because cars really are much more wasteful of carbon than stoves or furnaces (burning fossil fuel releases lots of "waste heat" but for a stove what you want IS the heat)
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Aren't Teslas (and electric cars in general) still really environmentally ugly in the *making* compared to other cars, too? Like sure they use less gas per mile, but it costs more ecologically to make a Tesla than a Subaru?
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Yes Throwing ANYTHING away and replacing it with a new thing before it actually breaks down or wears out is very unlikely to be carbon positive (the one big exception I can think of is incandescent light bulbs, which are like comically wasteful of energy)
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This is a common critique of Obama's Cash for Clunkers, and, well, it's true (although it's not complicated because an actual "clunker" can be dangerous in terms of particulate emissions etc and not just carbon)
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But Obama even said the point of that program was to provide economic stimulus to the auto industry and encourage mass adoption of electric auto tech in the long term, not reduce our carbon footprint now
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