I haven't listened to all of it, certainly. You type faster than either of us can think
-
-
Replying to @HenryTarquin @arthur_affect and
But I've absorbed enough to see your point and let me concede it (since I already agreed) in this form:
1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @HenryTarquin @arthur_affect and
IF we adopt the greater-freedom Swedish model for our COVID-19 response, there will be costs; and the best way to ameliorate these will be...
2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @HenryTarquin @RayTski and
It's not just that it's "offsetting costs" it's that if you don't have social support the Swedish model doesn't work at all!
1 reply 2 retweets 17 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
Look the WHOLE IDEA of "controlled burn", the ONE THING that makes it different from "Fuck it, just let whatever happens happen", is the idea of separating the old from the young, the high risk groups from the low risk
1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
The whole justification for it, going back to when Robin Hanson posted that stupid blog post that Dominic Cummings latched onto, is this convenient idea that you can cloister the elderly while the young working adults get exposed, and have that be your first and second wave
4 replies 3 retweets 11 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
THAT ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF POLICY MAKING PEOPLE DO THAT If a lot of the young people are too poor to live on their own and share a house with their retired parents then you aren't doing ANYTHING to lower total deaths in the long run You're just letting them happen
1 reply 5 retweets 19 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
Sweden partially adopted this model because, in fact, with their strong social safety net they're one of the countries that has the highest rate of people living alone in the world They've been hardly criticized for this "liberal atomization" by conservatives
1 reply 3 retweets 21 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
But that's why they convinced themselves it can work Swedish people get a ton of support when it comes to renting, home ownership, welfare checkups from the state There are way more retirees living alone than in nursing homes compared to the US
1 reply 5 retweets 18 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
If you try to do a "controlled burn" in the US as it is now it won't be controlled The whole place is soaked in kerosene (risky behaviors that speed the spread) It's just letting it burn
1 reply 3 retweets 21 likes
That's what's so fucking shitty about this whole thing Controlled burn is at least an argument, if a bad one *Uncontrolled* burn is different It's not saying "I did a bunch of math and this is a counterintuitive way to save more lives" It's just "I don't care about deaths"
-
-
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
The Americans calling for an end to lockdown and everything to just go straight back the way it was before, while citing that Spiked article or the Robin Hanson blog post, are just straight up evil
1 reply 5 retweets 21 likes -
Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryTarquin and
They're not even actual homeopaths who think homeopathy will actually cure your cancer They're lying about that, because they actively want your cancer to hurry up and kill you so they can take your inheritance They don't deserve an ounce of patience or good faith
0 replies 4 retweets 22 likes
End of conversation
New conversation -
Loading seems to be taking a while.
Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.