I mean, "good" is a vague term, possibly the inherently vaguest of all terms, there's whole schools of philosophy arguing over what it means or if it even can have a single meaning That said, Calvinist Christians will come very close to agreeing with the above statement
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("Good" and "evil" describe the "revealed will of God" for what humans should or shouldn't do, and applying that standard to the "secret will of God" himself is impossible and meaningless)
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This sounds like a hot take from a cynical atheist but I mean is it? It's literally the point of the Book of Job, like if you read it that's straight up what God says in "defense" of himself ("I don't need to defend myself, I'm God")
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I mean on some level I think this is fine and healthy There's a whole bunch of stuff in this big universe that's beyond our control and understanding and whether you "believe in God or gods" is a way of describing how you feel about that but it doesn't change that fact
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And whether you choose to react to that with worship and gratitude or fear and loathing is up to you But like... you can't actually put the universe on trial You can condemn God for being an asshole for disease and suffering and death happening but they still happen
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You've just got to find a way to deal with it See what you can do to make those things happen less Strike some kind of deal, if you can, and if you can't, well, find a way to think about it that gets you through the day
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One of my thoughts about a D&D type world where the gods are literally real and active entities was that the clerical class are the equivalent of lawyers
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I'm suddenly reminded of the line from Pratchett where he said that sometimes the gods would come around to atheists' houses and break their windows.
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Yeah exactly Being a D&D/Discworld atheist is like being an anarchist in our world I may very well not think that the gods *should* be gods and I may not recognize their authority in a moral sense and I may deeply hate them But I pay my taxes so I don't go to jail
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It's one of those things that's actually pretty deep if you think about it Do you "believe in" the law? Do you "believe in" the United States government? Or, say, the value of the US dollar?
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Many people on some emotional level *disbelieve* in these things really angrily and fervently but they, nonetheless, pay their taxes, stop at red lights, have a US passport, deposit their paychecks at the bank You gotta *act* like you believe, because everyone else believes
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(And by the same token, looking at it from the other direction, nobody believes quite as fully as the on-paper "religion" would have you think As people point out, we all inevitably break the law nearly constantly and cops and judges openly see enforcement as a judgment call)
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David Foster Wallace got all philosophical about this regarding, of all things, income tax returns
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