Among other things despite Parks & Rec, Brooklyn 99, and The Good Place having stuff in common, they're still so identifiably different that I've known people to hate two out of three but love one. Or love two but hate one.
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Replying to @nivenus @BootlegGirl
The Good Place does have the advantage of being stylistically very different from the two
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Replying to @BenGSchout @BootlegGirl
Or disadvantage depending on who you ask. I've know people who found it way too twee and I can definitely see that.
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But I mean they feel less like Schur shows than say Whedon shows feel like Whedon shows or Lindelof shows like Lindelof shows. It seems less dominated by the personality of the showrunner.
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Replying to @nivenus @BootlegGirl
The main difference between Lindelof and Whedon and Schur is that for two out of those three shows, Schur has a co-creator, I think the twee-ness (or rather softness) of the Good Place is also what he brought to Parks and Rec and Brooklyn 99
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Replying to @BenGSchout @BootlegGirl
I mean Whedon did have a co-creator for Angel and Firefly, though he then sort of just evaporated afterwards (Tim Minear). And *technically* for Lost, Lindelof was co-creator with Carlton Cuse (now running Jack Ryan) and JJ Abrams.
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Back in the day there was a website called Give Tim Minear a Hug, over the fact that he worked on a TON of critically acclaimed TV series that got unceremoniously canceled (Firefly, Wonderfalls, The Inside, Dollhouse, Drive) He's not gone though, he's on American Horror Story
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nivenus and
Minear is generally considered to be the source of the darker, more cynical edge in the stuff he worked with Whedon on (Angel, Firefly, Dollhouse) People who like Angel better than Buffy tend to be his fans
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nivenus and
Whedon likes protagonists who are lovable goofballs whereas Minear's brand of snark always comes with this grim cleareyed worldweary competence Like Joss' self-insert on Dollhouse was Topher and Minear's was Adele and Dominic
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I do understand in the case of Mal, Nathan Fillion specifically fought to keep him a little goofy and thought he was way too intense in the pilot.
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ISTR they did a Dollhouse BTS thing for the DVD and they asked everyone "What would you ask for from the Dollhouse if it were real" and Minear glares at the camera all "Nothing because I'm not a rapist"
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