One side is saying you can short circuit this apparent dilemma by "paying people to do nothing", keep as much of the system going as possible *except* for the part where people actually do the jobs that get them exposed to the virus
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Replying to @arthur_affect @DemocratsCongr2 and
Other people are so horrified by this solution that they'd prefer to just pretend problem 1) doesn't exist at all The only way to keep the farmers farming and so forth is to actually still have the restaurants open like normal, everyone getting infected, and bodies piling up
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Replying to @arthur_affect @DemocratsCongr2 and
We'll see which one ends up working out, although I suspect once the second wave of deaths hits full swing you'll find persuading people to still go eat at those restaurants is harder than you expected
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I agree that it’s a complicated issue with no easy/clear answer, especially in the long term. But destroying the lives of 10s of millions of people is a tough sell. Especially when the ones making those decisions have their jobs well secured.
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Printing money doesn’t provide things we need to live. By saying that we expect “essential” workers to work while everyone else can stay home and still get paid doesn’t sit right with me. Essential workers are risking their lives so everyone else can sit on their ass.
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The essential workers do not in any sense benefit from opening everything back up, the less social distancing you have the more risk you pile on essential/frontline workers with every interaction
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Economic growth has saved more lives than medicine by an order of magnitude. So I’d say that an improved economy is pretty beneficial to everyone. You can’t even get cancer screenings done right now. Tell me how that’s saving lives.
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Your stupid platitudes about "growth" and "incentive" have absolutely nothing to do with material reality, and the idea that letting people get haircuts from stylists again etc has anything to do with the material foundation of the economy is pure delusion
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Look at worldwide life expectancy growth alone since the end of WWII and tell me that economic growth hasn’t improved the lives of billions. Innovation in medicine, agriculture, trade, energy, technology etc. have improved and saved lives
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There are multiple specific things that happened that led to increased life expectancy etc that your ideology wraps up into one thing called "economic growth" through pure tautology
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It's only by looking at it from a very rough, distant POV that you can say "higher GDP = better life" Is life generally better in the US than South Sudan? Sure. Is that because of the US's higher GDP? You might think so, until you compare the US to other countries closer to it
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Turns out the US is worse in terms of lifespan, health outcomes, psychological happiness, etc than many other countries it has a higher GDP than
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I'm not AGAINST economic growth anyway - this is like saying that red lights are a bad idea because cars get us to go places.
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