He said as a US resident for decades he thought it was time to finally pull the trigger so he could vote against Donald Trump, although he may not make the deadline
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Replying to @arthur_affect @bazzalisk and
would he lose his UK citizenship (separate from title)?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @bazzalisk and
Not automatically, he'd be a dual citizen
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Replying to @arthur_affect @bazzalisk and
Ah. I've never been clear on which countries don't allow that. I know the US technically can force non-birth dual citizens to reject their other citizenship, although they usually don't?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @bazzalisk and
You have to renounce your other citizenship to get a security clearance, I know that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
Ah, okay, I was slightly misinformed People who actively naturalize as US citizens have to take an oath renouncing all other citizenships, most dual citizens in the US inherited their other citizenship through their parents
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
So Sir Patrick would have to give up his UK citizenship, and from a US perspective that would make all his UK titles invalid (but the UK doesn't fully agree)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
That oath's not legally binding for most countries, though, and is symbolic. So you can naturalize as a U.S. citizen and keep your previous citizenship... if the other country allows you to.
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Replying to @lwhonaker @arthur_affect and
Or in some cases requires you to. It’s *really* hard to stop being a UK citizen voluntarily. (Getting your citizenship forcibly stripped by the government is rather easier)
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Replying to @bazzalisk @arthur_affect and
It's also the same for the US... in theory, if you take a foreign nationality, you COULD lose US nationality, but only if you showed that you intended to forfeit the US citizenship in doing so. (And you would still have to pay the renunciation fee of $2350 to confirm the loss!)
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I think officially they don't come after you unless you enlist in another country's armed forces or do something else that involves proactively swearing allegiance to another country above the US (like getting a security clearance there or becoming a government agent)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @bazzalisk and
Normally not, but there are some subtle differences between the "relinquishment" and "renunciation". It used to be that, if you relinquished through an automatic loss (eg. Tina Turner's case), it was free, but renunciation cost money. (Now everyone pays the very high fee.)
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