System =/= the State. And your inability to see people's humanity as separate to their labour is not liberating, it's imprisoning. Thats the core of our disagreement. We cannot ever see eye to eye on this. Your "individualism" submerges the human in the work.
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Replying to @Sip_Commander @SFOShow and
Labour is an obligation. It is not necessarily a burden. Though it may be. Isn't a truly "individualist" system one where people can succeed in multiple ways instead of being forced to do the same thing? How is "you must work or you have no value to society" individualist?
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Replying to @UnknownEnby @SFOShow and
You literally argue that the only value a human has is their labour. That is precisely what socialists are accused of. Apparently you were arguing with a mirror. How easy to dispose of people once you dehumanise them as "leeches". We must deplete the surplus population.
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Replying to @UnknownEnby @SFOShow and
The funny thing is that the way asshole libertarians talk about "parasites" and "shirkers" and "leeches" and so forth is something they have very much in common with the worst of authoritarian communism
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Replying to @arthur_affect @UnknownEnby and
Like, eerily so The ultimate nastiness of Stalinism and Maoism is this ad hominem shit about how "You only oppose me because you're useless and lazy and need to live in a system where you can get away with leeching off real workers"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @UnknownEnby and
Any decent political movement, wherever you put it on the left/right spectrum, has to start in my view by kicking that kind of talk to the curb
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Replying to @arthur_affect @UnknownEnby and
Amused to see its origins ascribed to Stalin and Mao given it seems to be a particular favourite of right wing parties to turn on disabled people.
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That's not the origin, that's how people have talked generally about people they don't like since talking began
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