Any "reasonable concessions" you make so people can go hang out at the beach again if they pinky promise not to make out with any strangers just speeds up the rate at which those "essential workers" get exposed, infected and in some cases killed
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Unless you're willing to look at that equation and tell those "heroes" to their face "It was worth it for X number of you to die so we could that beach party", unless you actually understand what the tradeoff is, you should shut the fuck up
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Conservatives are so used to free-riding on liberals’ self-sacrifice (eg rural white people rioting over Obamacare, which taxed productive urban economies to provide *them* w healthcare subsidies) that a situation where that doesn’t work does not compute https://twitter.com/lawnerdbarak/status/1250599503712923649?s=21 …https://twitter.com/lawnerdbarak/status/1250599503712923649 …
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They see it as “scientists” (who count as per se liberals) say we need to Do Social Distancing. Okay, then if liberals say we need to do SD, liberals should do full-lockdown, and thereby earn our society’s quota of SD, and then the rest of us can live as normal.
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We can’t get sick from church: liberal scientists said we needed to do social distancing and those liberals did social distancing, we’re covered
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Right, exactly, it's not thought of as a need to obey the actual physical laws of nature, it's thought of as a bargain, a negotiation, like you can earn "points" somehow and be allowed a little exposure risk as a treat
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Yeah - and to be fair, there's some extent where we do have to figure out the negotiation: do restaurants stay open for take out? Do dry cleaners and laundromats stay open? Etc. But there's a cost for it.
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And I'm even sympathetic to the idea that religious events are so important, we should be willing to think about what the right balance point is there, not least because of the ways in which it handles people's stress. But not based on "you can't get sick in church"
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Okay see what I think is really at issue is the belief that the world is in some fundamental way fair and apportions consequences based on moral responsibility This is generally bullshit even at the best of times but the way this particular virus works especially doesn't fit
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Libertarians LOVE to say shit about "If I take the risk upon myself it's none of your business" But unless you move to an empty island tomorrow by yourself, you CANNOT take the risk of infectious disease upon yourself alone You ALWAYS spread it around to others
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Unfortunately we do not live in a science fiction universe where we're surrounded by personal force fields and all contact with other people's germs is consensual and voluntary If we did then none of this would be an issue in the first place
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But everyone saying "I'd rather take some small risk of an earlier death just to live a little again" aren't really bearing the risk themselves They're piling it on others, ESPECIALLY frontline retail employees who have no choice but to interact with them
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Yeah, this is enormously important and exactly true. And even beyond death, the stakes of this are very high. A retail worker who makes a full recover after two awful weeks is not being well-served.
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