So you always admitted that the 12-year deadline was in there, and the urgency of fundamental socioeconomic transformation as well? Is that what you're claiming now?
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It's a deadline the report sets as a viable target, it's not an absolute deadline for the "survival of the human race", which is good because it it were then it would already be too late at this point to meet it
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At least if you ignore the literature on what happens if the deadline is met, which you're hoping people have done. Because what you've described so far are two of the milder results.
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There is no credible source I'm aware of that floats the idea of reversing the Great Oxygenation Event and making all complex life on Earth extinct There are plenty of activists I follow who explicitly say not to say stupid shit like that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GwylAnarchaidd and
That doesn't even make sense just on the face of it, since we know that, say, the dinosaurs lived in a time period when the global temperature was 3 or 4 degrees higher than the current average
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GwylAnarchaidd and
Sure. But did they depend on agriculture for food?
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Replying to @trialbykumquat @GwylAnarchaidd and
The total economic collapse of human civilization, which is also something the report avoids talking about, still isn't the same thing as oxygen vanishing from the atmosphere and the species dying out (The dinosaurs had MORE oxygen in their air, not less)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @trialbykumquat and
In any case, the thing is to avoid talking about certain doom, or at least just to avoid lying when you do so at least In all likelihood, to be blunt, we ARE going to see 2 degrees of warming (and we would even if Bernie were elected King of the World) and have to live with it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @trialbykumquat and
Which means any attitude of "Fuck it, 2 degrees means it's too late, everyone is already dead and there's no point trying" will be ruinous I don't know if we can survive 2 degrees without mass die-offs but we're going to have to try
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GwylAnarchaidd and
See this is irks me a bit, because this attitude reads very much like „fuck the global south“.
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Okay well it's the reality of the world we live in and shooting me as a messenger isn't gonna help The IPCC report's most optimistic recommendations require rebuilding *every* country in the world - not just the US - and radical lifestyle transformation within all of them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @trialbykumquat and
Pardon me but looking at the situation on the ground that isn't happening, and the masses getting mad will not save us France's response to the IPCC report was to try to raise the gasoline tax and they spawned their whole big Yellow Vest populist movement AGAINST it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GwylAnarchaidd and
I don’t know, that kind of defeatist attitude seems very convenient.
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