I don't know that that's true in terms of actual policy platforms
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Like what do you mean by "in decades", because Biden definitely isn't to the right in terms of either policy or branding compared to Bill Clinton
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I don't see an argument that Joe Biden has ever been contemporaneously to the left of Bill Clinton On top of that I don't see an argument that Joe Biden wasn't more contemporaneously conservative than Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry or Obama Even his modern policies aren't far
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect
Joe Biden is ABSOLUTELY a more conservative candidate than Hillary Clinton was so on that basis alone we have inarguably "moved to the right" at least that much even before you factor in Biden's slavering enthusiasm to cooperate with the most fascist opposition party ever
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect
Like people keep insisting the party has moved left and I just, like No? we haven't even gotten back to pre-9/11 levels of liberalism, we just have marriage equality now
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
Wait really? Pre-9/11 the idea of universal health care at all was a dead letter after the Hillarycare debacle in 1993
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I mean maybe but when's the last time you heard a Democrat talk about getting rid of the USA PATRIOT Act
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
Okay, so we're talking about a couple different things Civil liberties took a big hit after 9/11, but that's not really what anyone on any side fixates on re: "left" vs "right", for better or for worse
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I think you're right but the fact that the party has completely normalized these kinds of massive Bush administration paradigm shifts should get factored into the calculus of where they currently stand imo
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect
And so much has gotten transparently worse, like the VRA, wealth inequality, the militarization of police forces, Citizens United, drone warfare, etc
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I don't know that Gulf War 1 and Kosovo were really that much better than the current War on Terror
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Replying to @arthur_affect
they weren't great but they didn't give us Guantanamo Bay
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
kosovo at least had a valid moral justification — they were trying to stop an actual genocide afaik...
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