"Sanders has pushed the Dems to the left on policy and ideology" Yeah sure. That's why they bent over backwards to ensure the single most conservative Democratic presidential nominee in decades, the one who, out of all candidates running, most closely resembled the incumbent
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Replying to @Nymphomachy
I don't know that that's true in terms of actual policy platforms
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
Like what do you mean by "in decades", because Biden definitely isn't to the right in terms of either policy or branding compared to Bill Clinton
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I don't see an argument that Joe Biden has ever been contemporaneously to the left of Bill Clinton On top of that I don't see an argument that Joe Biden wasn't more contemporaneously conservative than Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry or Obama Even his modern policies aren't far
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Joe Biden is ABSOLUTELY a more conservative candidate than Hillary Clinton was so on that basis alone we have inarguably "moved to the right" at least that much even before you factor in Biden's slavering enthusiasm to cooperate with the most fascist opposition party ever
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Like people keep insisting the party has moved left and I just, like No? we haven't even gotten back to pre-9/11 levels of liberalism, we just have marriage equality now
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Wait really? Pre-9/11 the idea of universal health care at all was a dead letter after the Hillarycare debacle in 1993
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I mean maybe but when's the last time you heard a Democrat talk about getting rid of the USA PATRIOT Act
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Okay, so we're talking about a couple different things Civil liberties took a big hit after 9/11, but that's not really what anyone on any side fixates on re: "left" vs "right", for better or for worse
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The whole country lurched rightward in the 80s with the Reagan Revolution and the "New Democrats" ran with them to survive It is really hard to argue that we were to the right of the 90s in the 2010s, even with all the bad stuff
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