...you know you’re talking about people in camps right? Are you saying that the internment camps were places where people felt peer pressure to fight in WWII
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Replying to @zacharyherz @lilyvonpsudonym and
Then why did the 442nd enlist if they didn’t feel compelled to do so?
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Replying to @NewProgressUSA @lilyvonpsudonym and
You said above that they enlisted because they felt morally obligated-now you’ve decided it’s social pressure, but you have no evidence for either? Dude you’re not making sense and you may want to look into taking the L.
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Replying to @zacharyherz @lilyvonpsudonym and
There’s evidence for both dude read a book - obviously the motivations for why any given Nisei soldier enlisted varied, but things like moral obligation & social pressure obviously were factors.
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Replying to @NewProgressUSA @lilyvonpsudonym and
You’re changing your claim-we’ve gone from totalizing arguments about the 442 “stepping up” to “everyone acts for their own reasons.” I prefer the second, as a professional historian. But it’s incompatible with the big claims about “what the Japanese did” your arg relies on.
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Replying to @zacharyherz @lilyvonpsudonym and
The 442nd did step up. They fought valiantly. But any given soldier arrived there through various reasons. These aren't mutually exclusive things. But you do strike me as dumb enough to think they are.
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Replying to @NewProgressUSA @zacharyherz and
I made no 'big claims' - I just pointed out there's historical precedence for Yang's approach and good things came out of it, even if the circumstances were bad.
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Replying to @NewProgressUSA @lilyvonpsudonym and
That’s... an ENORMOUS claim. You’re making causal connections between the actions of a specific military unit, and changing social attitudes in a country of 100s of millions. You think that’s not a big, ambitious claim that requires evidence?
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Replying to @zacharyherz @lilyvonpsudonym and
There is evidence, though. Countless books about Nisei and Sansei. The Japanese American's response was one of community, even though they were turned away by that community. And ultimately that helped Asians.
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Replying to @NewProgressUSA @zacharyherz and
Are you suggesting that the heroism of the 442nd had NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the perception of Japanese Americans? Kind of a 'fuck you' to the 442nd, isn't it?
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Hey look up the Revolution of 1954, almost ten years after the veterans from the 442nd came home to Hawaii, and ask yourself why it happened and why it was necessary
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NewProgressUSA and
Hey it turns out fighting and dying isn't actually enough to convince white politicians to stop discriminating against you! Turns out they listen to you most when you DON'T do anything for them (which is what a strike is)
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