I used to talk like that back in college, the whole poetic nonsense about writing ("I didn't create these characters, I discovered them, I sat down and listened to what they had to say") As an old bitter man now, I think this is just mostly bilge
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Like it's so interesting the dual way trolls approach this Either you're a talentless hack whose book is worthless so stop whining Or your book is a precious resource people need like oxygen and you're killing them by withholding it
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I mean, it doesn't matter If the book sucks then you don't need access to it, and if the book is awesome then I'm awesome for writing it and you should pay me Either way, you should shut the fuck up
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This whole kind of conversation is EXACTLY what they call "alienation" of labor, like the value of the book is a separate thing from the value of the work it took to write it It isn't, they're directly proportionate, they're the same thing
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The attempt to separate use value to the consumer and labor value to the producer is where Marx thought the exploitation of capitalism all started "Leftists" should be embarrassed to find themselves talking this way
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Isn't the issue simply property vs possession? The first being something like a previously distributed film or a hotel, the latter being my unpublished work or the house I actually live in.
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Replying to @Lithobolos @arthur_affect and
Apologies but I'm confused how any amount of labor=charging any amount doesn't simple defend latenstage greed by capitalists like Bezos for initial efforts.
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Replying to @Lithobolos @arthur_affect and
I think it's pretty zoomed in on the distinction between capital and labor in any of this. Bezos owns the things that make things—capital. Artists make things—labor.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @Lithobolos and
Yes, the author is only a capitalist by the Marxist definition if they leverage the value of their book to make OTHER PEOPLE work for them and profit from THEIR labor
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
The "landlord" comparison is the classic form of that - I save up my paycheck, I buy the house you live in, you can't move because you need to be there for your job, so now instead of living off my paycheck I live off yours
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The comparison of owning real estate to owning IP on a book I wrote is not very good Especially when we're talking about writing fiction (patents would be a much better candidate for the landlord comparison)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Nobody actually needs to "live in the house", you won't die if you don't read my novel, and novels aren't scarce the way land is, the number of possible novels someone could write is infinite
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
And it's MY BOOK, I didn't save up the money to buy it from someone, it's not a patch of ground that's always been there, it's a product of my effort
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