Yes, because they didn't pay for them Their position is that buying a physical copy gives you no digital distribution rights whatsoever, which is completely fair (copyright case law has ALWAYS regarded transferring from one medium to another as legally significant)
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But the libraries which IA is handling ebook distributor for did. Plus IA has a large collection of PD and CC works. You agree that yes, IA can distribute those, yes?
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Yes, and the Authors Guild isn't talking about that, they're talking about the Open Library system, which throws up scans of physical books *without checking* if those books are public domain, orphaned works, if the authors agree to it, etc based on the CDL logic
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But the AG does not say that. I am going by what the AG is saying, which is a blanket statement which, if is accepted, would hurt many groups far beyond IA, namely libraries. Which is my original point.
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They're saying the IA has no rights to the books that the IA does not, in fact, have rights to, not that it's IMPOSSIBLE to GET rights to the books by having the author agree to it
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That is not what they said. The exact words were no rights whatsoever, no qualifying over one book from another. But, they do have some rights, even if not the ones IA claims.
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"These" is a pronoun, what do you think the antecedent of "these" in "They have no rights to these books" is
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Do you understand my concern at least?
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I understand it and I think slippery slope arguments remain a fallacy
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If I hadn't seen similar arguments made in the past which did go this way, I would be less wary. But I recall the RIAA and MPAA's actions with similar statements turning into very messy lawsuit and precedent, and do not want a repeat.
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Lol I hate this kind of argument What copyright enforcement has actually gotten more onerous in the offline, meatspace world in the past twenty years Where are the cops coming to bust people for letting someone share their earbuds to listen to a song
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Copyright has gotten, in actual practice, FAR FAR WEAKER than it was before the Internet The slippery slope arguments are all premised on the idea that the existence of new media SHOULD widely expand access beyond the pre-digital status quo and if they don't you've lost rights
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Lending libraries with physical copies are never going to go away, the delusional fantasies of the NWU or AG being as powerful as the RIAA (or the RIAA even being very powerful) notwithstanding
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