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Broadview Heights, Ohio
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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @downix and

      It may seem like an arbitrary distinction to you but arguing that restrictive terms on ebook lending means you don't want libraries to exist at all because ebooks and physical books are "the same thing" is disingenuous as hell

      2 replies 3 retweets 17 likes
    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @downix and

      It's like saying that because a studio was willing to broadcast a TV show over the air "for free" they should be fine with recording the episode and throwing it up on YouTube for no additional money because it's "the same thing"

      1 reply 1 retweet 12 likes
    3. Buddy‏ @soc_lee 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @downix @neilhimself

      I understand you're upset, bro, but I'm not the one saying you shouldn't get paid. I literally just asked what libraries do for authors.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @soc_lee @downix @neilhimself

      Okay, and the answer is that libraries traditionally buy one physical copy of a book for every copy they have in circulation, so authors get paid in proportion to how much "bandwidth" their "file" uses on the physical shelves

      1 reply 1 retweet 18 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @soc_lee and

      Publishers negotiate licenses for ebooks based on how much more they think ebooks being available for free will cut into sales than physical lending, and scale their fees based on how many copies the library will allow to be "borrowed" at once

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    6. Nathaniel Downes‏ @downix 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @soc_lee @neilhimself

      Right. So by this position, the libraries should be able to lend out these ebooks, up to the volume licensed, through their back end provider, whomever they are.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @downix @soc_lee @neilhimself

      Yes, WITH THE CONSENT OF THE RIGHTSHOLDER, UNDER TERMS THEY NEGOTIATED The "controlled digital lending" theory (CDL) of the Internet Archive asserts they don't have to do this, that whoever owns a physical copy can do whatever they want with it "within reason"

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    8. Nathaniel Downes‏ @downix 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @soc_lee @neilhimself

      And I am with you here.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @downix @soc_lee @neilhimself

      Okay, so you agree with the Authors Guild that the Internet Archive should take down all their CDL content immediately (the "extreme" position) and only put up ebooks under a "traditional" license

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    10. Nathaniel Downes‏ @downix 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @soc_lee @neilhimself

      I do agree there. My main concern has been the blanket arguments made that IA has no rights whatsoever when they clearly do, just not to the limited given by CDL.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
      Replying to @downix @soc_lee @neilhimself

      The "blanket argument" is you shouldn't have any rights associated with digital content that weren't explicitly negotiated with the rightsholder The reason people consider this "extreme" is the whole "physical is no different from digital" argument

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @downix and

          "A regular hardcover book doesn't have a licensing agreement on it, it's ASSUMED I can do whatever I want with it including share it with my friends" Yeah because of the obvious physical features of the platform that inherently limit those rights and make commerce possible

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @downix and

          That's not even actually true anyway and if people stepped back and thought about it they'd know it I can do whatever I want with MY ONE COPY of a physical book but I cannot make more copies (with a xerox machine or a phone camera or typing it out by hand)

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        2. Nathaniel Downes‏ @downix 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @soc_lee @neilhimself

          My concern is that if libraries cannot use a middleware vendor, like IA, Amazon, or OverDrive, it would make the cost of lending too high for any but the largest library systems to manage.

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 30 Mar 2020
          Replying to @downix @soc_lee @neilhimself

          It's not about the existence of a middleman it's about the existence of an additional license created from thin air nobody negotiated

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
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