Lol if you think "It doesn't matter if everything I believe is wrong as long as I'm on the right people's side" even makes internal sense then there's no point in continuing this conversation
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Replying to @arthur_affect
What if one of the facts you're wrong about is the fact of who actually supports you, or the fact of how relatively "structurally oppressed" those people are
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Trump screwed up all of those questions and he still won. He *still* thinks his base is working-class peope, when it’s really middle-class petit-bourgeoisie. (He gets that his base are racist Fox News addicts right, so maybe it doesn’t matter.)
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Replying to @ccommack
None of this shit about "You can't know if you're going to win until you actually do win" is an actual argument for being a total fucking asshole with no self control who runs your fool mouth about every goddamn thing It could apply to any personality type, any "style"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ccommack
But it FEELS like there's a correlation between winning and sheer unfiltered emotion and "force of will", at least if you're raised steeped in toxic masculinity So you get this kind of argument all the time - just take it as read the biggest assholes are "really trying to win"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ccommack
I see it the exact opposite way, people like that obviously don't give a shit one way or the other if they win, they just enjoy doing what they're doing now and want to keep on doing it Trump was never happier than when running for President and never so unhappy as when he won
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ccommack
I see The American President as Sorkin's original sin - TWW was meant to be a kind of response to it, a "Here's a more realistic look at the White House" series, but it fell back into that all the same Bartlet cursing God and stamping out a cigarette on the cathedral floor etc
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The speech at the end of TAP was realistically a *resignation speech*, "I don't care about being President and doing my job anymore, I just want to tell you how I really feel", and the bullshit fantasy was that doing that gets you rewarded with power
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Replying to @arthur_affect @ccommack
I thought that was the plot of "Bullworth"?
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