Yeah and conveniently those guesses are just based on whatever the person felt like saying and doing anyway How convenient and easy and fun politics turns out to be, if only every other job also worked that way
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Right, and the only thing that matters is you go out and vote, and whatever happens in the end is what the people decided so it's fine Seemingly at odds with the idea that there are lives on the line and people's future at stake
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I am saying that being right has nothing to do with being effective, which is exactly why I called Sorkinesque fantasies childish and annoying And if you actually think you are right it is VERY IMPORTANT that you try to become effective
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Yes That's what I'm saying, and I'm saying I think that's stupid And I'm also saying the whole podcast/breadtube set has a similar delusion - "I'm a big viral hit because I'm right, and that means my politics are both objectively good and will eventually win"
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Okay, that's just rephrasing what I said, and it also seems pretty dubious (the core of Breadtube's appeal is absolutely the "professional-managerial class")
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it's amazing that somehow your interlocutors have it in their heads that you're defending sorkin
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I dislike Sorkin partly because I think TWW has a wholly unearned reputation for being about the gritty daily life of professionals trying to do the unglamorous work of governing, which it really wasn't
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