So you have millions of homeless people who *in theory* have guaranteed housing thousands of miles away, but this does them no good in their current situation - the equivalent of undocumented immigrants within their own country
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AstronomyBeck
I get what you're saying, but I'm hearing: "I'm sorry, it's impossible to add this feature without rewriting the product." In China's example, you have an argument against jobs and allowing for trading of homes... It's possible to dream bigger, though it might not be easy
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"Houses are a human right" "Oh, we can't do that because of jobs" "Why do we need jobs again?" I think people become radicalized when they try to fix things and keep finding it propped up by the surrounding problems. Replacing the whole thing starts to look very tempting.
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Replying to @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck
I am in favor of housing as a human right but I don't think universal home ownership is a good model for it, if only because I also think of migration as a human right
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And I feel like a lot of the sloppy way people talk about this is covering over some pretty big philosophical/cultural splits among the left (is your image of the utopian lifestyle a settled village or a wandering tribe)
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In any case, though, if you're saying "Let's abolish jobs!" then that's a bigger thing than abolishing landlords and the shape of whatever you do with housing or food or all the rest of it depends on what that looks like
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FWIW, it's really not the case that no one in history has "dreamt bigger" - it's hard to find *anyone* in history who dreamt quite as big as the CCP post-1949, which is why studying how and why that all fell apart is instructive
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Any good book recs on that very subject?
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Replying to @TellerGrim @arthur_affect and1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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Replying to @SoyuzSteph @TellerGrim and
This is, among other things, pre-1949
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A statement of what Mao was trying to do is a good first step in a discussion of why it all went to hell in a handbasket but requires many other steps after it
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