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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @AstronomyBeck

      I'm not some huge fan of landlords but "Everyone should just own their own home" is an obviously unworkable idea The realistic option to replace private landlords is public housing or housing co-ops, both of which take effort to set up

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. decoy  🧡‏ @decoy_orange 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AstronomyBeck

      "Everyone deserves a home that can't be taken away" being an "obviously unworkable" idea seems like a pretty strong statement against any current system... When the pragmatic choices means vulnerable people still die, you can see how people end up radicalized.

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      A social right to housing in the abstract is a distinct concept from everyone being the private owner of a homestead

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      I mean, look, having an absolute right to *one specific house* doesn't actually get you very much, if you live in a society where you have to have a job, and if the jobs around where your house is all disappear

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      This is an actual issue in, say, China, which did theoretically guarantee your right to live in your registered homestead (hukou) during the Mao era, but this law became a dead letter when huge numbers of people migrated to the cities in the 80s for jobs

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      So you have millions of homeless people who *in theory* have guaranteed housing thousands of miles away, but this does them no good in their current situation - the equivalent of undocumented immigrants within their own country

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. decoy  🧡‏ @decoy_orange 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @AstronomyBeck

      I get what you're saying, but I'm hearing: "I'm sorry, it's impossible to add this feature without rewriting the product." In China's example, you have an argument against jobs and allowing for trading of homes... It's possible to dream bigger, though it might not be easy

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    8. decoy  🧡‏ @decoy_orange 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @decoy_orange @arthur_affect @AstronomyBeck

      "Houses are a human right" "Oh, we can't do that because of jobs" "Why do we need jobs again?" I think people become radicalized when they try to fix things and keep finding it propped up by the surrounding problems. Replacing the whole thing starts to look very tempting.

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      I am in favor of housing as a human right but I don't think universal home ownership is a good model for it, if only because I also think of migration as a human right

      1 reply 2 retweets 6 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      And I feel like a lot of the sloppy way people talk about this is covering over some pretty big philosophical/cultural splits among the left (is your image of the utopian lifestyle a settled village or a wandering tribe)

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

      In any case, though, if you're saying "Let's abolish jobs!" then that's a bigger thing than abolishing landlords and the shape of whatever you do with housing or food or all the rest of it depends on what that looks like

      11:52 PM - 21 Mar 2020
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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 21 Mar 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

          FWIW, it's really not the case that no one in history has "dreamt bigger" - it's hard to find *anyone* in history who dreamt quite as big as the CCP post-1949, which is why studying how and why that all fell apart is instructive

          1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
        3. Kaworu from LA‏ @TellerGrim 21 Mar 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @decoy_orange @AstronomyBeck

          Any good book recs on that very subject?

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