Well people in this thread are claiming to be able to identify anyone's "sex" by looking, apparently it's so easy babies can do it, and when I asked for the definition of "sex" I got an answer about chromosomes and gametes.
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Replying to @sophienotemily @intersexfacts and
You are still ignoring the distinction between observing and defining sex. I wonder why?
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Replying to @unwitod @intersexfacts and
Because I think people are the best authority on themselves. The right to self-define means that nobody else gets to tell you who you are.
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Replying to @sophienotemily @unwitod and
Yet you are telling women that they are no different from men who dress like them; or, increasingly, those who don’t. You are denying women the right to define themselves as a sex.
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Replying to @Shatterface @unwitod and
No? I am not? I'm saying you get to say whether or not you are a woman but you do not get to say whether or not someone else is a woman
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Replying to @sophienotemily @unwitod and
How can a woman say she is a woman of a man can say exactly the same thing? The word loses all meaning.
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Replying to @Shatterface @unwitod and
A man can lie and say he is a woman, true. A straight person can lie and say they are gay. A right handed person can lie and say they are left handed. Someone who likes dogs better can lie and say they like cats better. People lie about things.
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Replying to @sophienotemily @Shatterface and
For us to be able to say something is a lie, there must be a truth which is being willfully obscured. What is the source of truth for the statement "I am a woman" if the test is just: 'someone is what they say they are'?
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Replying to @unwitod @Shatterface and
What is the source of truth for someone saying they are straight or gay or bisexual or asexual? Is it not their own perception of the attractiveness of others?
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Replying to @sophienotemily @Shatterface and
We can test for it though (we can observe arousal in the lab, for eg). And we can observe or obtain evidence of behaviour or relationship. All sorts of things. This is a real world issue, actually, in asylum claims and just the statement 'I am gay' is often judged insufficient.
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It's a real world issue in that the use of biometrics to try to "prove" someone's sexual orientation is an invasive abusive ongoing atrocity based on pseudoscientific garbage, yes
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Replying to @arthur_affect @unwitod and
Unless you think strapping sensors to someone's genitals and making them watch porn while you watch them watching porn is an okay thing to do if you have a white coat and a clipboard while you do it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sophienotemily and
What are you ranting about now? Are you saying it is never ethical to undertake psychological or sex research with volunteers?
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