I find it interesting to note who is talking about 'ideal' humans and what appearance people 'should' have. The relevant term is 'would' have... Moreover, I don't recall saying TW 'shouldn't' transition, merely that underlying biology remains unchanged.
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Replying to @unwitod @sophienotemily and
"Would" have when? There are millions of different things you can make using one set of DNA, many of them not meaningfully human (look at the HeLa cells and other tumorous growths)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sophienotemily and
You have been spaffing on about this for a while now, but you seem to be arguing against something you imagine has been said to you. It's quite odd.
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Replying to @unwitod @arthur_affect and
The twin studies you are citing precisely require the distinction you seem to think should never be made (because "Nazi shit"): what is caused by underlying genetics vs what in the environment effects gene expression. That is why they are interesting
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Replying to @unwitod @arthur_affect and
Chu doesn’t see the difference between twin studies to determine the genetic and environmental influences on traits, and Nazis stitching twins together for shits and giggles. For him even your genes are just an ‘environment’.
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Replying to @Shatterface @unwitod and
I'm on record as saying I think if I had different genes I'd still exist and be me, at least to the same degree that I'd still exist and be me under the counterfactual where I was born in a different city or a different year
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Replying to @arthur_affect @unwitod and
Was it sensible to go ‘on the record’ with that? In what sense would something with different genes and different environmental experiences be you? If this was possible why is there only one of you?
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Replying to @Shatterface @arthur_affect and
Hahahaha he keeps getting better and better. Now a genetically different 'Arthur', subject to (necessarily) different environmental interplay with genes, is still the same person? Wow!
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Replying to @unwitod @arthur_affect and
And he was criticising those who accept biology of claiming there is an ‘ideal you’ - but here he’s arguing for an ‘ideal you’ that exists outside of your biological form.
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Replying to @Shatterface @unwitod and
Not really I don't think these counterfactuals exist or that you can say there's an identity that persists through them except as a spectrum of similarity So perhaps my point was poorly phrased
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So how about this The version of me who got two more hours of sleep last night is JUST AS fake and nonexistent and JUST AS MUCH "not me" as the imaginary version of me that has XX chromosomes
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