People intentionally confusing the two to score points is very annoying I KNOW that the existing health insurance system is full of waste and if you made it disappear and replaced it with single-payer you'd save money The question is HOW DO YOU DO THAT
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"I would do it by starting a revolution" is not a satisfying answer, at least not when you're promising to get it done sometime in the next five years
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As long as I've been paying attention to this issue the most plausible path toward universal coverage has always been a universal mandate + public option and the public option steadily grows to cover more and more of the population
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This isn't a half measure being proposed because Americans are uniquely recalcitrant capitalists, this is literally what happened in several European countries, whose universal coverage evolved from or in some cases still is a "mixed" system
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But now we're being told this is unacceptable and the only way we will ever see universal coverage is if an iron-fisted President marches into the corporate offices of Blue Cross Blue Shield shouting "Your business is over! To the guillotine with you!" Sorry if I'm skeptical
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There's obviously no middle path between hoping people like Pelosi will let you pass good legislation and rolling out the guillotines, right? It's not like you can do speeches, ask people to cal senators and stir up popular pressure, or even call for strikes, right?
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The President going on TV and demanding a General Strike is not as much of a fantasy as Bernie Sanders personally kicking down the door of Blue Cross corporate HQ and shooting all the executives, but it's a difference of degree and not kind
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Maybe, maybe not. The fact that it hasn't been done (here, recently) does not actually make it impossible or mean it would be ineffective. And you chose to respond to the most extreme option I mentioned and that any of us think might be remotely possible from him.
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Unless you're proposing a Second Constitutional Convention to change how the Senate works, overturning the Senate GOP majority by presidential exhortation during Sanders' first term isn't even mathematically possible, much less politically feasible
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Who said that? I'm talking about Democratic candidates winning elections and using public pressure to force them to not act like Republicans by obstructing popular and practical legislation.
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It's not the centrist Democrats who have a majority in the Senate, it's the actual Republicans
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Are we not electing 1/3 of the Senate this year? And was that majority not already pretty close? Why are you assuming they will still have a majority? Look, if you think we're expecting this to be easy, you're (almost insultingly) wrong. We know how much work there is to do.
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We just want to fight like hell and see if we can get it done, rather than "compromising" before we even start negotiating. That has been a losing policy for Democrats (even assuming they actually *wanted* to help people at their donors' expense).
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