When people point to the Khmer Rouge and go "Well they may have fervently believed they were communists but their actions ended up being reactionary in practice" I'm like... Yeah That happens
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
But also, it wasn't communism that made them reactionary. Their reactionary practices were innovated by capitalism. So what you're saying is not a valid critique of medicare 4 all
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Replying to @TJFlamson @arthur_affect and
"Deep organic social issues are the fault of the bourgeois and capitalism" looks very similar to reactionary logic
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Replying to @LizardOrman @arthur_affect and
(My point is merely that he's trying to lay eugenics at the feet of socialism when that is woefully historically inaccurate)
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
This is stupid, it doesn't matter who "innovated" this or that, people and the political parties they belong to are responsible for their own actions
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
It matters that you're acting like it's only socialist regimes that have ever engaged in eugenics or forced sterilization. C'mon man, I know you're upset Bernie did well in the debate, but this is a bush league mistake
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
So is the Khmer Rouge famous because the things they did were, in fact, on balance somewhat worse than the Khmer Republic they replaced and somewhat worse than average than the general bad things that happen in our fallen world
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TJFlamson and
Or do we only know who they are because of anti-Red propaganda Was the Stalinist USSR really just about as bad as Tsarist Russia, was the Great Leap Forward just the same kind of thing as the Qing Emperors and the RoC
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TJFlamson and
In Wikipedia's description of the GLF, there's *a lot* of "Mao was too distrustful of intellectuals to have anyone competent double check his plan"
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Replying to @LizardOrman @TJFlamson and
Yeah the whole sneering at eggheads and wonks for lacking true revolutionary energy and failing to understand change is made by inspiring the people to do what they thought impossible It's a very popular stance all over the political spectrum
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They have a point, nitpicking about plans and budgets *is* a major dampener on political enthused and *does* make it hard to get anything done at all Until one day you wake up and the food you expected to be there just isn't there
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
Or you're so enamored with being a revolutionary that you just let that Joseph guy handle the boring duties and find people to fill various positions until one day you look up and realize the guy who was only appointed a general secretary is now ruling the entire USSR.
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