"Deep organic social issues are the fault of the bourgeois and capitalism" looks very similar to reactionary logic
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Replying to @LizardOrman @arthur_affect and
(My point is merely that he's trying to lay eugenics at the feet of socialism when that is woefully historically inaccurate)
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
This is stupid, it doesn't matter who "innovated" this or that, people and the political parties they belong to are responsible for their own actions
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
It matters that you're acting like it's only socialist regimes that have ever engaged in eugenics or forced sterilization. C'mon man, I know you're upset Bernie did well in the debate, but this is a bush league mistake
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
So is the Khmer Rouge famous because the things they did were, in fact, on balance somewhat worse than the Khmer Republic they replaced and somewhat worse than average than the general bad things that happen in our fallen world
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
No, the Khmer Rouge is famous because they were horrendous, and represent a kind of psychotic spiral into terror not seen since Muenster. But I'm not voting for them; I'm voting for someone who wants to tax the wealthy something close to their fair share. Scary, I know.
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
We're not talking about who's voting for whom in the election We're talking about a certain set of ideological biases people in certain political circles hold that, while they usually do not lead to mass murder, some of us still find generally troubling and distasteful
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
What are you saying, though? Are you opposed to socialism as an ideology because of those occasions, or are you just cautioning we keep an eye out for them. Because I'm 100% with you on the latter, while the former is intellectually dishonest
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
I don't really care much about "socialism" the word one way or another, I think of myself as broadly speaking on "the left" but like Orwell in his time I've become deeply kneejerk suspicious of ideology and theory
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TJFlamson and
I guess you'd say I'm a liberal, which "neoliberal" nowadays is the term of abuse for Stripped away of the cultural associations of sipping lattes and listening to classical music it mainly means I care more deep down about individual liberties than class politics
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Which is what @BootlegGirl was talking about
The idea that a true leftist will always stick up for "the workers" as a group in any situation and that it's a form of capitalist concern trolling to ask "Okay but in this specific case did they deserve to get fired"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
(God I wish I could stop engaging and just do the dishes) The idea that I am supporting is that disabled people are also part of the class-we-call-working, and that the intra-class lens applies. So, sure, they deserved to get fired. Unless they're mean to billionaires
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