Okay, then I will also say that I'm not supporting taking us down the path to eugenics and forced sterilization. I don't suppose you know which kind of economic system innovated those practices
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Replying to @TJFlamson @BootlegGirl and
I'm saying that whether you frame it as "capitalist" or "socialist" plenty of people have reasons to be wary of any ideology or tendency that valorizes work above all else and emphasizes "a man is entitled to the sweat of his own brow"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TJFlamson and
When people point to the Khmer Rouge and go "Well they may have fervently believed they were communists but their actions ended up being reactionary in practice" I'm like... Yeah That happens
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
But also, it wasn't communism that made them reactionary. Their reactionary practices were innovated by capitalism. So what you're saying is not a valid critique of medicare 4 all
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Replying to @TJFlamson @arthur_affect and
"Deep organic social issues are the fault of the bourgeois and capitalism" looks very similar to reactionary logic
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Replying to @LizardOrman @arthur_affect and
(My point is merely that he's trying to lay eugenics at the feet of socialism when that is woefully historically inaccurate)
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Replying to @TJFlamson @LizardOrman and
This is stupid, it doesn't matter who "innovated" this or that, people and the political parties they belong to are responsible for their own actions
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Replying to @arthur_affect @LizardOrman and
It matters that you're acting like it's only socialist regimes that have ever engaged in eugenics or forced sterilization. C'mon man, I know you're upset Bernie did well in the debate, but this is a bush league mistake
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Replying to @TJFlamson @arthur_affect and
Dude, I think you are making wild assumptions about the politics of the people in this conversation. Bernie is by far my #2 candidate and I'm elated he owned Bloomberg hard
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @TJFlamson and
Also Bernie's not a socialist, he's not even a demsoc, he's a socdem, which I thought we established was different He probably genuinely held socialist beliefs in his youth but that's not who he is now or who he'd be as President
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Which is, you know, most likely a good thing, because Young Bernie said a bunch of buck wild bullshit Which is why his Internet fandom making him a symbol of this kind of holier-than-thou leftism is kind of annoying
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Replying to @arthur_affect @TJFlamson and
I would actually love to hang out with Bernie Sanders, I think. I would definitely like to see him as President. His inability to check his supporters is why Warren is my #1.
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