I'm really confused by the uncompromising binary between class and identity in this thread. Like ... can't access to money and marginalized identity both affect an individual? Maybe they even affect individuals in slightly different (sometimes compimentary) ways? https://twitter.com/BootlegGirl/status/1230255730533584898 …
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Replying to @GladKilburn @BootlegGirl
From over here in the UK the thing that always gets me is that class pretty definitely is an identity here.
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Replying to @bazzalisk @GladKilburn
I think it is here too, but it's much clearer over there from what I've seen. Here it's just that it overlaps a lot with race in a way that I don't think it does quite as much in the UK
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But I guess this is part of my point: what is class? Does someone become middle class if they are like my mom, work their way through school at a union railway job and get a degree over 10 years, then survive being a single mom and finally become a professor making money?
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Or do they forever retain their working class-ness? Similarly, do I become blue collar because I work a blue collar job even though I have a PhD but washed out of most jobs that could use it? (Class first folks would def say no on that one)
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Is class - how much money you make now? - how much money your parents made when you were growing up? - the level of education you completed? - how much authority you hold at your job? - what cultural artifacts you respect? It seems like people believe several of these at once
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Class is whether you make most of your money by selling your labour or by renting property you own
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What if you do neither?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @LizardOrman and
Alternately, what if you're an old lady on social security who rents out your basement to get the bare minimum?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @LizardOrman and
Or how about an actor who gets paid for their labor, a lot, and has poor spending habits? If I get paid six million dollars for a film role and blow it on non-durable goods, am I "working class"? (I guess I'm okay with "yes" here but I don't think the irony left thinks so)
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They totally think podcasters who make a million dollars a year are "working class"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl and
Which actually raises another huge issue in Marxist analysis. Performing for other people’s entertainment is labour, but charging people to view recordings of said performances is rent-seeking. So what is recording performances in order to charge?
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Replying to @bazzalisk @arthur_affect and
You can have a perfectly viable business from charging for the production and releasing the final product for free
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