IMO only literal inescapable unending torment is worse than non-existence
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @TellerGrim and
The Good Place, at least, makes it voluntary. That everyone will choose it eventually is somewhat questionable, but it's also hard to figure out what it would feel like to live 10,000 years.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl and
I didn’t mind the idea of the door, like keeping it as a monument to death but when everyone choose to go through it, I found that episode just super disturbing. I would probably go Tahani’s route if it came down to it.
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Replying to @queerthecloset @BootlegGirl and
That's the thing though! Tahani never went through it, which reinforces that it is, in fact, optional, rather than a singular conclusion that everyone will choose self-annihilation. And it's not entirely an end; we don't know what happens through the door.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @queerthecloset and
Tahani is a true boddhisattva - she's done but out of compassion for every other being in the universe she's not leaving until they're all done too Which is why she gives up all the comforts of the Good Place to become an Architect, she no longer needs them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Just like Chidi was perfectly willing to stay for Eleanor's sake, it wasn't torture for him or anything, there was just no further benefit for him personally
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
And yeah Eleanor in the end isn't *gone* gone, that's what the little sparks represent (although Shur says the idea that the sparks ARE Eleanor is an oversimplification of what he intended) Nirvana is the ineffable process of rejoining the world-soul
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Every individual soul that achieves nirvana means the world-soul is a little closer to itself finally being done
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Described like that it seems like a much "nicer" gloss on when fundamentalist Christians want to do something to get us closer to the apocalypse. What if I don't want the world to end, but to keep generating new things?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @mssilverstein and
A system of finite size can only generate a finite number of total results, even if that number is very large
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Vedic mythology does postulate an endless multiverse, or at least one whose end is unknowable, but it emphasizes that the universe as we know it has to come to an end if something truly new is to take its place
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