Nirvana means escaping the cycle of samsara, you die one last time and don't come back
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nivenus
Yeah, and I'm not a fan of Buddhism's views there. It's not part of my cultural context the way Christianity is, but if I was part of a Buddhist culture I could well imagine a show that criticizes the cultural exaltation of this the way TGP does heaven/hell in our culture
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I don't really have a religious framework for what I see as goals in religion. Nothing matches. I like reincarnation because you get to reroll, but I see the ultimate goal of existence as achieving maximum amount of what you desire and existing as long as you can
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For me, I like the idea of reincarnation, and eventually becoming one with the universe (pantheism). Being part of EVERYTHING beats being nothing, in my book.
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IMO only literal inescapable unending torment is worse than non-existence
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @TellerGrim and
The Good Place, at least, makes it voluntary. That everyone will choose it eventually is somewhat questionable, but it's also hard to figure out what it would feel like to live 10,000 years.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl and
I didn’t mind the idea of the door, like keeping it as a monument to death but when everyone choose to go through it, I found that episode just super disturbing. I would probably go Tahani’s route if it came down to it.
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Replying to @queerthecloset @BootlegGirl and
That's the thing though! Tahani never went through it, which reinforces that it is, in fact, optional, rather than a singular conclusion that everyone will choose self-annihilation. And it's not entirely an end; we don't know what happens through the door.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @queerthecloset and
Tahani is a true boddhisattva - she's done but out of compassion for every other being in the universe she's not leaving until they're all done too Which is why she gives up all the comforts of the Good Place to become an Architect, she no longer needs them
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Just like Chidi was perfectly willing to stay for Eleanor's sake, it wasn't torture for him or anything, there was just no further benefit for him personally
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And yeah Eleanor in the end isn't *gone* gone, that's what the little sparks represent (although Shur says the idea that the sparks ARE Eleanor is an oversimplification of what he intended) Nirvana is the ineffable process of rejoining the world-soul
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
Every individual soul that achieves nirvana means the world-soul is a little closer to itself finally being done
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Replying to @arthur_affect @queerthecloset and
Yeah - the sparks are extremely important here, I think, metaphorical or not. The end of the self in this way isn't necessarily the equivalent of being the end of the existence, just the end of the particular arrangement.
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