This conversation is going in places that I really don't like and that scream motivated reasoning to me The plain meaning of the conversation they're having in the audio is that Amber starts physical fights and Johnny finds that unacceptable; neither challenges that narrative
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I seriously do not care about the rest of it nearly as much There is no acceptable reason to start physical fights, period Moreover, if the narrative in the audio is true, then Heard blatantly lied about who was physically violent in the relationship, at least up to 2015
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Those are both really fucking serious things and Johnny could've done any number of awful things but if they weren't that (being the one to routinely initiate violence and lying to the authorities about that fact) then I don't give a fuck
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And the shit about saying that Amber is obviously the victim because she's audibly upset and Johnny is obviously the abuser because he's audibly calm is REALLY fucking shitty Like that pushes my buttons really really hard
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Yeah. Too many people don't want to believe abuse is happening, so *however* one acts, it's the Wrong Thing and Proof of the Victim is Lying.
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Coming up with a psychological theory that being too upset is bad or too calm is bad or whatever it is is always messed up
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Replying to @arthur_affect @GriseldaGimpel and
Liked that's really why I'm trying to stay focused here on the fact that the audio is just her straightforwardly confessing to being the abuser in the relationship
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And any retroactive analysis saying "Well I've always known because she acts this way and he acts that way" is just being part of the problem
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