Yeah, I don't know but that sounds emasculating. And again, his pattern is , according to this tape, leave when it gets heated. And she doesn't like it. She sold this idea of him being controlling, but based on this tape, he wanted peace and no physical violence.
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Controlling isn't the right word but I do consider it emotionally abusive to walk away any time the other person has an issue to work out with you. Sometimes it's unclear what counts as *abuse* and what is just garden variety unhealthy behavior.
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To me emotional abuse is calling you names, underminding your sense of self worth by saying you are weak or stupid. It could be walking away, but sometimes you have to let the person walk away so things don't escalate. Which is what Johhny seems to want and healthy to do.
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Replying to @JaneHegemon @dopemamaJ and
What is abusive is forcing the other party to stay when they need time to process. I am not talking about the silent treatment. That is different.
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I'm only talking about refusing to EVER address things, not needing space to process or cool down.
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Replying to @dopemamaJ @JaneHegemon and
Depp and Heard both sound like fucking messes tbh
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I feel like I want to say entering into a relationship with someone who's fucked up and doesn't have their shit together and then reacting to that by becoming abusive to them isn't uncommon, and doesn't make the abuse justified or not abuse
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Right, dysfunction doesn't mean abuse and even if they are a mess, neither of them deserves to be abused.
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To pick one example of a woman abusing a man that everyone seemed to agree on, Amanda Palmer faked her own suicide to "teach her boyfriend a lesson" after he started using heroin again despite her protests and seemed to think this was justified
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Replying to @arthur_affect @JaneHegemon and
I don't mean sending him texts threatening suicide I mean actually getting makeup and stage blood to fake a death scene for him to come home and find
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(And was secretly recording the audio of him screaming when he found her so she could put it on her album)
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That...well the filming took it to a different level...imo. It is no longer reacting, it is retrubution heading into vindictiveness.
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Replying to @JaneHegemon @arthur_affect and
Which if I wasn't clear, is abusive. Sorry i have never heard of this case before. How are they now?
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