That is what their conversation is specifically about, and they argue over it for an hour The conversation is EXPLICITLY Heard repeatedly saying it's a problem Depp routinely flees from confrontation and Depp saying it's a problem she initiates violence
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Thank you. It is really hard to set aside our bias and look at facts. And it is hard esp as you said people who shouldn't be riding this train is jumping on and it makes it even harder. I just want to point out https://www.thehotline.org/2016/01/25/myth-of-mutual-abuse/ … For those who truly believe mutal abuse
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A) I think if anything a prime lesson of the past few years has been never trust anyone on this website and B) this entire episode has greatly increased my discomfort with how often people pour out their traumas into the gaping maw of the internet and receive praise for doing so
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I also didn't like that I had to come to the same conclusion, or that MRAs are using this as a repugnant gotcha. But that isn't a good enough reason to deny what seems to be the truth. Also, reading the statement of a female friend who witnessed one incident...she is the abuser.
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From the beginning I could tell violence came from both sides. But looking at the facts about how their relationship started and how their previous ones ended, I speculated Heard's emotional abuse of Depp was the initial abuse and what lead to him fighting back physically.
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At this point, is it clear he actually fought back physically? I legitimately don't know. I wouldn't be surprised at all, given other incidents of violence by him, e.g (per Wikipedia) accused of punching a crew member in the ribs in 2018.
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It's not a doctored tape, her lawyer couldn't and didn't denied the tape in a statement. So...
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You don't think abusers play therapy like a game? They do. That tape is likely not representative of his behavior in private.
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Great thread agree with the points made
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I. I. I....actually agree with Arthur for once...it's a christmas miracle!
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