That is what their conversation is specifically about, and they argue over it for an hour The conversation is EXPLICITLY Heard repeatedly saying it's a problem Depp routinely flees from confrontation and Depp saying it's a problem she initiates violence
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It's possible that this is all bullshit and he was the abuser, but only, as I see it, if one of two things is true:
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1) The audio is thoroughly and skilfully doctored and the conversation is thoroughly falsified 2) She's so mentally broken by abuse she's fully collaborating with a gaslighting false narrative he's created for the whole length of the conversation
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A multilevel kind of false narrative, where she is fully in denial/suppressing memories of him initiating violence but she's still furious and bitter toward him over the exact opposite behavior, him being the bad guy because he always withdraws and flees
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I find 1) easier to imagine than 2), although I fully concede the world is complicated and any number of things might be true But I really can't see myself, at this point, arguing for either 1) or 2) and not feeling really gross about it
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And look I don't *want* to be on Johnny Depp's "side", I am put off by the company the pro-Depp hashtags have attracted throughout this whole thing, I'm not a fan of his acting at all (much less a thirsty stan) But the audio is what it is
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Look I don't want to have been wrong all this time and to eat crow now I want an explanation that makes me not have to say I was helping out an abuser when making Johnny Depp jokes for the past few years What's disturbing me is that Heard's defenders aren't giving me one
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Because I really don't want platitudes like "mutual abuse is a thing" or "victims become violent in self defense" I want to hear why the narrative on the tape is false I'm even prepared to believe it's a doctored tape, I spent some time trying to figure out how it could be
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But I actually find the attitude "We can't have been wrong, we KNOW what happened here, it's OBVIOUS there's another explanation" deeply chilling I mean this literally, it's triggering some pretty serious shit for me
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And, actually, a lot of the circumstantial evidence people are dragging into this - Johnny Depp is previously known to be an addict, Johnny Depp is previously known to be mentally ill, Johnny Depp is previously known to be a gross jerk - is not a good argument
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And actively makes me feel like I can't trust you
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