It's straightforwardly dystopian by most people's standards and I can only read Jemisin as being ironic or at least intentionally provocative with it It's an attempt to mimic the deliberately confrontational tone of the original Omelas story that I'm not sure came off
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
I'm not saying I fully reject the mindset of the story but the presentation didn't work on me The tone of Omelas worked because it was an ironic tragedy, the hectoring voice of the narrator trying to get the reader to accept something the author, irl, doesn't accept
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
The snark about the paradox of tolerance notwithstanding, the situation in this story obviously is tragic - the only way to deal with bad ideas is to ban them? Nothing can defeat racism but murder and brain implants? - but the tone doesn't really acknowledge it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
I mean you can't just crumple up the paradox of tolerance and throw it away The paradox of intolerance is just as bad - great, as soon as someone says anything evil they should get two in the back of the head Now who gets to decide what counts as evil
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
The reason I don't believe in Um-Helat isn't just that I don't believe a system run by secret police stamping out thoughtcrime is unstable, although I do think that It's that I don't buy such a system would've been set up by the good guys in the first place
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
How did they breed out selfishness - the original sin of "seeing others as less than human" - but be simultaneously create a caste of police who summarily execute people Those two things don't go together
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Replying to @arthur_affect
Yeah I see your point I mean obviously I haven't really discussed the themes of the story with any rigor I just think the premise it's starting from, "this shit is poison and once it's in you there's no antidote" is pretty valid
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Yeah but you and I *are* infected That's the thing where I think Jemisin didn't make her intentions fully clear
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
If a cop shot one of your family members right in front of you would you have the rational, prosocial reaction of asking "What laws did he break that made this necessary" or would you be immediately filled with antisocial selfish rage
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
I mean, shit, this is a story about police profiling What literally happens is a cop kills somebody who hasn't actually committed any harm because they've judged him to be the kind of person likely to cause harm in the future
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The most uncharitable reading of it is that it's a really shallow "Well what if WE were the cops and YOU were the underclass, asshole" revenge fantasy Which I don't think is all it is, but still
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I mean—and I say this entirely self-critically—I am more than willing to consider or accept that my enjoyment of this story was extremely perverse
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