NK Jemisin's homage to Omelas, "The Ones Who Stay And Fight" kind of touches on this and I recommend it It's not good enough to have freedom of speech if all that means on your end is that your countrymen have Freedom to Poison You
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The Ones Who Stay and Fight is just as ambiguous as the original Omelas story Like if you actually think that's a positive image of utopia it's pretty fucked up
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Le Guin's image of the Child is (indirectly) taken from The Brothers Karamazov, and Jemisin is returning to that same source The "social workers" in her utopia have fully accepted the burden of the Grand Inquisitor - "Only we who guard the mystery will be unhappy"
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Yeah I guess? Idk I don't think it's nearly as dystopian as Omelas and kind of speaks to my convictions that once the poison is in you it's not coming out, that the only cure for the MAGA crowd is to outlive them one way or another
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It doesn't bother you to imagine a world where the one possible sin is curiosity, and bad ideas are a contagion that must be stamped out by force?
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That the dead man's daughter is diagnosed as "infected" because her reaction to her father's death is vengeful anger rather than having enough faith in her society to ask what the socially necessary reason was for him to be killed?
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Note that the infection clearly isn't specifically something like "racism", it's the basic concept of *selfishness* The little girl's mind is diseased because she cares more about her dad than about the abstract idea of society and the welfare of strangers
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Seriously, it says that once your mind is infected by bad ideas the only two options are death or having brain implants that render you incapable of acting on those ideas And all of us in the real world are so infected and could only have one of these fates in that society
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It's straightforwardly dystopian by most people's standards and I can only read Jemisin as being ironic or at least intentionally provocative with it It's an attempt to mimic the deliberately confrontational tone of the original Omelas story that I'm not sure came off
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I'm not saying I fully reject the mindset of the story but the presentation didn't work on me The tone of Omelas worked because it was an ironic tragedy, the hectoring voice of the narrator trying to get the reader to accept something the author, irl, doesn't accept
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The snark about the paradox of tolerance notwithstanding, the situation in this story obviously is tragic - the only way to deal with bad ideas is to ban them? Nothing can defeat racism but murder and brain implants? - but the tone doesn't really acknowledge it
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I mean you can't just crumple up the paradox of tolerance and throw it away The paradox of intolerance is just as bad - great, as soon as someone says anything evil they should get two in the back of the head Now who gets to decide what counts as evil
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The reason I don't believe in Um-Helat isn't just that I don't believe a system run by secret police stamping out thoughtcrime is unstable, although I do think that It's that I don't buy such a system would've been set up by the good guys in the first place
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