Yeah the Protestants and Catholics are divided on whether the line "He descended into hell" belongs in the Creed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
Yeah, and even given that, the nitty-gritty of the events and its meaning have been hotly contested.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
The usual interpretation is that a truly innocent sacrifice destroys the system, Hell cannot tolerate having a sinless soul inside it by its nature, but the order and nature of events is hotly contested
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I did like the metaphor in The Great Divorce Where Lewis can't find the Abyss the bus from Hell came out of to arrive in Heaven, and his guide George MacDonald just digs a little divot in the dirt and says it was probably something like this
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The distance between Heaven and Hell isn't just one of location but size Heaven is a massive galaxy-sized world even compared to Earth, but the difference is even greater with Hell, which is a particle smaller than an atom
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(And which therefore, based on Lewis' understanding of quantum physics, is both anywhere and nowhere)
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If you understand how the universe is actually shaped, after all, Up and Down aren't a symmetrical opposition The direction you call Down is really In and the direction you call Up is really Out The "descent" of a soul into Hell is really collapse, implosion
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The concept of a singularity and a black hole wasn't well known at the time but I'm sure he would've dug it
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But anyway MacDonald explains that's why the saints can't go into Hell, and why the damned become insubstantial ghosts in Heaven There's literally no room, nothing that has real substance can physically fit inside
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And Lewis asks if it's actually completely impossible and MacDonald replies there is only One for whom all things are possible
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And that's when you realize the whole premise - the bus taking the damned up to tour Heaven - is only possible if the unassuming bus driver from the beginning is actually Jesus Who otherwise does not directly appear in the story at all
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