Yeah, it's not *precisely* true that you don't/can't redeem yourself, and there were prisoners who ransomed themselves, but at least, it has that transactional element. Someone needs to pay the price.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
Yeah this is where Christians come in and talk about how no one can avoid going to Hell without Christ's sacrifice
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein
Which is a perspective that IMO can only be made sense of heretically by arguing that either Christ is still in Hell, or else he at the very least experienced an infinity of pain when he went there, otherwise it just doesn't add up
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @mssilverstein
Time works differently in the afterlife, Jeremy Bearimy
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
It also seems like there's quite a good deal of doctrinal conflict around it
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
Yeah the Protestants and Catholics are divided on whether the line "He descended into hell" belongs in the Creed
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Replying to @arthur_affect @BootlegGirl
Yeah, and even given that, the nitty-gritty of the events and its meaning have been hotly contested.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
The usual interpretation is that a truly innocent sacrifice destroys the system, Hell cannot tolerate having a sinless soul inside it by its nature, but the order and nature of events is hotly contested
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I did like the metaphor in The Great Divorce Where Lewis can't find the Abyss the bus from Hell came out of to arrive in Heaven, and his guide George MacDonald just digs a little divot in the dirt and says it was probably something like this
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The distance between Heaven and Hell isn't just one of location but size Heaven is a massive galaxy-sized world even compared to Earth, but the difference is even greater with Hell, which is a particle smaller than an atom
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(And which therefore, based on Lewis' understanding of quantum physics, is both anywhere and nowhere)
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If you understand how the universe is actually shaped, after all, Up and Down aren't a symmetrical opposition The direction you call Down is really In and the direction you call Up is really Out The "descent" of a soul into Hell is really collapse, implosion
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The concept of a singularity and a black hole wasn't well known at the time but I'm sure he would've dug it
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