It is not clear to me that Jojo would have rejected fascism if not for these two things: 1) fascism caused his mom's death 2) he had a huge crush on the personification of fascism's ire in the story, while fascism was represented by a twisted, imaginary old man
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For those keeping track at home, these are also the problems with Kylo Ren's redemption arc :P
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Like, does it really count as having an epiphany about the humanity of your enemies if your one enemy is the only person left who will put up with your sht and you also think she's really hot?
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They portrayed this situation in Jessica Jones S1 from the crush's POV, with Jessica asking herself if the right thing to do is try to turn Kilgrave into a positive force for the world with herself as his babysitter
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The problem is that we might find equally flimsy reasons for most people to choose good or evil.
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But I think that kind of goes along with the idea of redemption, at least in the more original usages. It's not about the journey of the person being redeemed, it's sometimes more like 'ransom' - someone else buying back their freedom.
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More abstractly, we can talk about a narrative doing the redemption. But note that we still require passive voice. Kylo Ren "is redeemed," which calls for a "by who?"
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I'm here to redeem a Kylo Ren, it says I get one (1) free milkshake
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @arthur_affect
Right? That's the usage. Or like, turning in old cans or something: they're being redeemed, purchased back, from you.
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The old religious usage is generally about Jesus reclaiming your soul from hell; there are Old Testament usages too, buying you out of suffering, or slavery, or death. The point is, though, that you can't redeem yourself!
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Well, there are stories of slaves buying themselves out of slavery, though this requires a certain amount of chicanery and/or largesse from the owner (since technically as a slave everything you own is your owner's anyway)
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In the case of American chattel slavery where slaves were uniquely disenfranchised this was usually a matter of being able to own your own skilled labor that can't be directly coerced You can force someone to pick crops every day on pain of torture, not so much do bookkeeping
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So they'd come up with agreements for highly valuable enslaved labor like "Once you earn back your purchase price and then some I'll set you free"
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