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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Feb 2020

      Hey you know what It turns out Iowa, like all states in the Democratic primary, rewards delegates proportionally rather than winner-take-all Which means which one of the candidates "beat" the other by 1% doesn't actually matter very much

      7 replies 30 retweets 172 likes
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    2. David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj‏ @Roy_DeLys 6 Feb 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj Retweeted Virgil Texas

      No, actually Bernie won Iowa. And he beat the other candidates. It's safe and right to say that. He clearly won the popular vote. Why else give Iowa that privileged status if not for the momentum and prime-time speech?https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1225145304518885377 …

      David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj added,

      Virgil TexasVerified account @virgiltexas
      Many other states have some version of SDEs. Often primaries are multistage processes, e.g. Texas in 2008, which held BOTH a primary and a caucus. But the topline number always reported is the popular vote. There is no other metric for determining the winner. Bernie won. Thanks.
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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Roy_DeLys

      The "why" is a historical accident, and the more you actually believe Iowa is a "bellwether" that determines the course of the primary the worse it is to give that position to a 90% white state

      3 replies 4 retweets 26 likes
    4. David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj‏ @Roy_DeLys 6 Feb 2020
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      None of that takes away from the fact that a contest was held, and Bernie came out as the winner. Bernie won Iowa. We can move on to the next state/territory but take what happened as fact

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Feb 2020
      Replying to @Roy_DeLys

      No, the new requirement to count the popular vote at the caucus doesn't change the way the caucus actually works, and if you think popular vote *should* matter then you should've pushed to change the bullshit caucus system to an actual primary election in the first place

      12:41 AM - 6 Feb 2020
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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect 6 Feb 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect @Roy_DeLys

          As one of Virgil's own commenters points out, Bernie won the Iowa caucus in the same sense that Hillary won the whole election in 2016

          1 reply 3 retweets 19 likes
        3. David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj‏ @Roy_DeLys 6 Feb 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          Ignoring the whole debacle of the 2016 Iowa caucus, then yeah Bernie won without having access to the levers of IDC power that HRC had. This is a really weird flex to argue Arthur. Bernie won. Yeah the caucuses suck, but move on to the next state then. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

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        2. David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj‏ @Roy_DeLys 6 Feb 2020
          Replying to @arthur_affect

          David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj Retweeted Arthur Chu

          No, you're moving the goal post. The popular vote matters if everyone gets the same delegates. Logically, everyone knows whoever has the most people won the contest even if the delegates were a tie. You seemed to think so in 2018:https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1013122427205718018 …

          David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj added,

          Arthur ChuVerified account @arthur_affect
          If you don't think the popular vote matters then you, in a much more legal sense, don't believe in democracy https://twitter.com/LunarLemonade/status/1013121398817132544 …
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj‏ @Roy_DeLys 6 Feb 2020
          Replying to @Roy_DeLys @arthur_affect

          David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj Retweeted Arthur Chu

          a fact is that the popular vote always mattered when it comes to your original point: media coverage. You defended the moral necessity of the pop vote in 2018 too:https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1049405393439318016?s=20 …

          David  🇭🇹 déchoukaj added,

          Arthur ChuVerified account @arthur_affect
          Replying to @onlyanumber @fawfulfan @AaronBlake
          Yeah there's no "suddenly" here It has always been a bad thing for the President to lose the popular vote but win the election When it happened in the 19th century (John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes) it led to legitimacy crises and outbreaks of violence
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