Egh... so, I told @Eye636 I'd listen to the Chapo people whinge about #JOKER and... JFC, it's over an HOUR of talk and at 15:44 I've already got Christman(?) declaring "The 70s is when we INVENTED gritty cinema!!"
...the things I go through for you peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUmW4vsUoU …
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Called it. I knew someone would bring up noir like its a valid response. As I said, love film noir, but it ain't gritty by modern standards whereas Taxi Driver or Dog Day Afternoon still are.
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Explain to me what the objective definition of grittiness is
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