Which one was the more talented performer has nothing to do with who abused the other Which one had better overall politics has nothing to do with who abused the other Which one was more attractive, put together or socially graceful has nothing to do with who abused the other
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Replying to @Glides
It's possible but the tape really makes it hard to justify thinking that
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
Yes, there's still the tape of him being loud and belligerent to account for, and the photos of her bruises But the recorded conversation they gave us is really, really bad for her "side"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
Like unless there's some serious lying or doctoring going on in that tape, then at the time that tape was made she was absolutely the abuser and he was the victim, and if he later became abusive it was in direct response to what she had been doing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
my counterpoint would be, i guess, that i can't know when that aspect of their relationship began, who the initial aggressor was, etc. it seems fairly safe to me to assume that, at different times, they were both extremely shitty to each other.
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Replying to @BAlyssaHauk @Glides
She's so intensely self-justifying that if there were a period of time when he was the active physical aggressor I don't see why she wouldn't have brought it up in her litany of excuses
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
i dunno. 'cause it's probably one of like a thousand arguments they had and she just didn't say it that time? i really don't know. i just have a hard time believing that there's only one clear cut bad person in this story.
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Replying to @BAlyssaHauk @Glides
Have you listened to the whole tape? They have a whole discussion of what each of them sees the "pattern" of their relationship as being
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
possibly not? i heard a two minute clip and assumed that was it.
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No the whole thing is like an hour
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Glides
christ. i don't think i have the emotional energy to listen to an angry couple argue for an hour. i'll take your word for it.
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