The narrative that both of them agree to in this discussion - that she accepts and tries to justify - is not one of mutual abuse, it's one where her physical abuse is somehow justified by his emotional neglect It's actually really disturbing to read
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This recording is from 2015, and they only divorced in 2017, so she may yet come out with evidence that shifts the narrative again But this audio sounds really bad, because it has her explicitly affirming that she was the physical abuser and his reaction was almost always flight
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