I like The Good Place a lot but it doesn't really hold the weight people want to put on it (it certainly doesn't actually have any answers to serious moral dilemmas)
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Like the space rock show it's theoretically about a lot of very serious grownup things that, by virtue it the genre it put itself in, it can't address, which is necessary for what it's trying to do but will always be this limitation it can't get past
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One of their obvious sources of inspiration was CS Lewis' The Screwtape Letters and The Great Divorce and Lewis, being genuinely devoutly religious, Went There to a degree Shur can't Like TGD has a guy who was murdered in Hell with his murderer in Heaven
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It's the kind of thing that logically should come up in TGP but never does, there's no real acknowledgment of "serious" sins Even the fact that Eleanor has contributed to ruining countless lives (like Moist von Lipwig having aggregately murdered 8.3 people) is only really a joke
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Anyway it's interesting contrasting TGP's extremely feel good ending with Bojack's ending that came out at exactly the same time, and had a very similar theme from exactly the opposite point of view
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And, like, that's the thing You can't imagine Bojack going to the Good Place It would be a horrible ending to his show, a betrayal of who he is as a character Even if some kind of radical transformation of who he is is possible, you couldn't show it through wacky hijinks
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And Bojack isn't even THAT BAD of a person I mean he's horrible, he's directly responsible for at least one death, but by the world's standards he's nothing He's no Hitler or Pol Pot or Stalin, his story is meant to evoke Bill Cosby but he's not even that
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TGP's fantasy is something they can only gesture at in broad strokes, and it's the exact fantasy that Bojack dumped cold water on in its penultimate episode Like Chidi says, the Good *Place* is misnamed, it's not a matter of space but time
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Shur's thesis is something that every self-justifying has person has grasped at I didn't have a chance, I didn't have enough time, give me another ten years to work on it, I'll get better And it's an appealing fantasy but one that you know is appealing because it's bullshit
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
this is part of why I've come to see Always Sunny as the symmetrical antithesis of Good Place, like its last season episode was a parody of Waiting for Godot that now feels like it was predicting Good Place's ending and playing against it
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Fred Clark once described IASIP as the most serious attempt to do a story that actually takes place in Hell since Dante and Milton and they really did commit to it more than TGP
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy
the Gang goes to Hell part 2 is still the BEST vision of "hell is other people: the sitcom"
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